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		<title>By: Bunny Marzena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunny Marzena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A class action lawsuit was filed against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM), its officers, directors, Presidential Ambassadors and all National Sales Managers claiming fraud, pyramid scheme and RICO violations in the Eastern District of the Federal Courts on September 2, 2010 

Defendants listed in the lawsuit include:
Paul C. Orberson, Jeff Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, David Mills, Billy Stahl, Simon Davies, Ruel Morton, Todd Rowland, Ashley Rowland, Todd &amp; Ashley, Inc., Mike Misenheimer, Steve Jordan, Joel McNinch, Chris Doyle, Ken Brown, Jerry Brown, Bob Decant, Joanne McMahon, Terry Walker, Sandi Walker, Sherri Winter, Trey Knight, Kevin Mullins, Scott Aguilar, Molly Aguilar, Nathan Kirby, Dwayne Brown, Aaron Decker, Susan Frank, Ramiro Armenta, Angelina Armenta, Alexis Adame, Teresa Adame, Darla DiGrandi, Matt Morse, Matt Barrett and Roberto Rivera


This is an action by plaintiffs on behalf of themselves and those similarly situated to recover damages caused by the defendants&#039; operation of an inherently fraudulent pyramid scheme. The pyramid scheme is fraudulent because it requires the payment by participants of money to defendant Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing, Inc. (&quot;Fortune&quot;), in return for which participants receive (1) the right to sell products and (2) the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into the program rewards which are unrelated to sale of the product to ultimate users.

This action is brought on behalf of a national class of persons who serve or have served as independent representatives for Fortune, pursuant to the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1961-1968 (&quot;RICO&quot;), the Kentucky Consumer Protection Act, KRS Chapter 367, and the laws of Kentucky.

Under the Compensation Plan utilized by Fortune until at least July 1, 2010, IRs are able to earn compensation from two sources: (1) bonuses for recruiting and sponsoring new representatives; and (2) commissions from sales of products and services by themselves and by recruits in their &quot;downline.

Fortune operates as an illegal pyramid scheme because this compensation plan affords IRs the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into Fortune rewards which are unrelated to the sale of products or services to ultimate users outside of Fortune. Fortune&#039;s compensation plan involves an elaborate set of bonuses which are effectively the only way to earn money in Fortune and which are all tied not to real sales to outside customers, but rather to recruitment of new IRs.

To perpetuate the fraudulent pyramid scheme described above, Fortune claims to have special relationships with or to be a &quot;partner&quot; of several large major national companies whose products and services Fortune offers. These companies include, but are not limited to, AT&amp;T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, Dish Networks, General Electric Security (&quot;GE Security&quot;), DuPont and Home Depot. Fortune has used the trademarks of these and other companies in marketing materials and business presentations in order to convince prospective customers that Fortune is a legal business. In reality, Fortune does not have any sort of special relationship with these companies. Fortune is not a &quot;partner&quot; with Dish Networks. Rather it is a third-party independent contractor authorized to sell Dish Networks service. There are numerous other such third-party vendors of Dish Network.

All of the defendants in this action collectively form an &quot;enterprise&quot; under RICO, 18 U.S.C. § 1962, in that they are a group of individuals and entities associated in fact, although not a legal entity.

The defendants&#039; promotion of an illegal pyramid scheme is a per se scheme to defraud under the mail and wire fraud statutes; thus, the defendants have committed racketeering acts by promoting an illegal pyramid scheme by using and causing others to use the mail and by transmitting and causing others to transmit, by means of wire in interstate commerce, writing, signs, signals, pictures and sounds, all in furtherance of and for purposes of executing a scheme or artifice to defraud, namely an illegal pyramid scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A class action lawsuit was filed against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM), its officers, directors, Presidential Ambassadors and all National Sales Managers claiming fraud, pyramid scheme and RICO violations in the Eastern District of the Federal Courts on September 2, 2010 </p>
<p>Defendants listed in the lawsuit include:<br />
Paul C. Orberson, Jeff Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, David Mills, Billy Stahl, Simon Davies, Ruel Morton, Todd Rowland, Ashley Rowland, Todd &amp; Ashley, Inc., Mike Misenheimer, Steve Jordan, Joel McNinch, Chris Doyle, Ken Brown, Jerry Brown, Bob Decant, Joanne McMahon, Terry Walker, Sandi Walker, Sherri Winter, Trey Knight, Kevin Mullins, Scott Aguilar, Molly Aguilar, Nathan Kirby, Dwayne Brown, Aaron Decker, Susan Frank, Ramiro Armenta, Angelina Armenta, Alexis Adame, Teresa Adame, Darla DiGrandi, Matt Morse, Matt Barrett and Roberto Rivera</p>
<p>This is an action by plaintiffs on behalf of themselves and those similarly situated to recover damages caused by the defendants&#8217; operation of an inherently fraudulent pyramid scheme. The pyramid scheme is fraudulent because it requires the payment by participants of money to defendant Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing, Inc. (&#8220;Fortune&#8221;), in return for which participants receive (1) the right to sell products and (2) the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into the program rewards which are unrelated to sale of the product to ultimate users.</p>
<p>This action is brought on behalf of a national class of persons who serve or have served as independent representatives for Fortune, pursuant to the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1961-1968 (&#8220;RICO&#8221;), the Kentucky Consumer Protection Act, KRS Chapter 367, and the laws of Kentucky.</p>
<p>Under the Compensation Plan utilized by Fortune until at least July 1, 2010, IRs are able to earn compensation from two sources: (1) bonuses for recruiting and sponsoring new representatives; and (2) commissions from sales of products and services by themselves and by recruits in their &#8220;downline.</p>
<p>Fortune operates as an illegal pyramid scheme because this compensation plan affords IRs the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into Fortune rewards which are unrelated to the sale of products or services to ultimate users outside of Fortune. Fortune&#8217;s compensation plan involves an elaborate set of bonuses which are effectively the only way to earn money in Fortune and which are all tied not to real sales to outside customers, but rather to recruitment of new IRs.</p>
<p>To perpetuate the fraudulent pyramid scheme described above, Fortune claims to have special relationships with or to be a &#8220;partner&#8221; of several large major national companies whose products and services Fortune offers. These companies include, but are not limited to, AT&amp;T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, Dish Networks, General Electric Security (&#8220;GE Security&#8221;), DuPont and Home Depot. Fortune has used the trademarks of these and other companies in marketing materials and business presentations in order to convince prospective customers that Fortune is a legal business. In reality, Fortune does not have any sort of special relationship with these companies. Fortune is not a &#8220;partner&#8221; with Dish Networks. Rather it is a third-party independent contractor authorized to sell Dish Networks service. There are numerous other such third-party vendors of Dish Network.</p>
<p>All of the defendants in this action collectively form an &#8220;enterprise&#8221; under RICO, 18 U.S.C. § 1962, in that they are a group of individuals and entities associated in fact, although not a legal entity.</p>
<p>The defendants&#8217; promotion of an illegal pyramid scheme is a per se scheme to defraud under the mail and wire fraud statutes; thus, the defendants have committed racketeering acts by promoting an illegal pyramid scheme by using and causing others to use the mail and by transmitting and causing others to transmit, by means of wire in interstate commerce, writing, signs, signals, pictures and sounds, all in furtherance of and for purposes of executing a scheme or artifice to defraud, namely an illegal pyramid scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulie Moorehouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulie Moorehouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LEXINGTON, Ky. (WHAS11) -- A Kentucky-based company has been the target of legal actions by two different states.  When we first told you about Fortune Hi Tech Marketing in May, the company had just agreed to a settlement with Montana which required it to pay a fine of nearly a million dollars and post its average income statements.

Fortune reps recruit in restaurants, churches and auditoriums nationwide. They bring in thousands of new members every year, partly by preaching the gospel of prosperity.  &quot;You&#039;re gonna get paid $100,000 a year for doing exactly what you do today,” said one representative in his You Tube recruiting video.  “There are quite a few people that stand up in front of the room and talk about how much they&#039;re making. One of them posted online he is making $400,000 a month,” said a former representative from Texas.


The Lexington-based company&#039;s own top reps have said that Fortune has 200,000 representatives with annual sales of $500 million.  Fortune claims success from representing products from well known companies.  “Everybody comes into our business the exact same way, has the exact same opportunities,” said FHTM CEO Tom Mills.

However, some former members say it&#039;s not sales but recruitment that matters, and only the top recruiters earn big bucks.  “Maybe you&#039;ve got 200 people in Fortune that are from the Executive level up nationally that are making any sizable amount of money, and the rest are all going broke,” said former FHTM representative Joe Isaacs.


Montana investigators say most of the state&#039;s 3,000 Fortune reps paid hundreds of dollars to join, but made little or no money.  The state called fortune a &quot;pyramid promotional scheme&quot; and ordered the company to make annual income statements available.  Fortune agreed to post them in order to continue operating in Montana.

It wasn&#039;t easy for us to find the financial disclosure statement, but we finally did after navigating the website for a while. We went under “opportunity”, then clicked on “rewards,” then we had to scroll down past the photographs of Fortune members swimming with the dolphins and a family picking up the new Lexis in order to find a tiny link at the bottom of the page.  The information inside speaks volumes about Fortune&#039;s compensation.

In the fine print, it says 71 percent of reps are actually paid. 28 percent earn zero.  As for how the rest would look on a graph, “It would certainly have a pyramid shape to it,” said Charlie Mattingly, CEO of the Louisville Better Business Bureau.  Nearly 95 percent of reps earn less than $3,000 a year.  Another four percent earn between $3,000 and-$30,000. That means less than half of one percent of Fortune reps average more than that.

“What these numbers show is that relatively few people are making substantial amounts of money. 95 percent of the participants are making very little money,” said Mattingly.


Fortune&#039;s marketing manager Laura McDonald said in a statement &quot;Our goal with this document is to make sure that prospective FHTM Independent Representatives realize that they will need to work hard to earn an income and success is not guaranteed.&quot;

You can click here to see FHTM annual income statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEXINGTON, Ky. (WHAS11) &#8212; A Kentucky-based company has been the target of legal actions by two different states.  When we first told you about Fortune Hi Tech Marketing in May, the company had just agreed to a settlement with Montana which required it to pay a fine of nearly a million dollars and post its average income statements.</p>
<p>Fortune reps recruit in restaurants, churches and auditoriums nationwide. They bring in thousands of new members every year, partly by preaching the gospel of prosperity.  &#8220;You&#8217;re gonna get paid $100,000 a year for doing exactly what you do today,” said one representative in his You Tube recruiting video.  “There are quite a few people that stand up in front of the room and talk about how much they&#8217;re making. One of them posted online he is making $400,000 a month,” said a former representative from Texas.</p>
<p>The Lexington-based company&#8217;s own top reps have said that Fortune has 200,000 representatives with annual sales of $500 million.  Fortune claims success from representing products from well known companies.  “Everybody comes into our business the exact same way, has the exact same opportunities,” said FHTM CEO Tom Mills.</p>
<p>However, some former members say it&#8217;s not sales but recruitment that matters, and only the top recruiters earn big bucks.  “Maybe you&#8217;ve got 200 people in Fortune that are from the Executive level up nationally that are making any sizable amount of money, and the rest are all going broke,” said former FHTM representative Joe Isaacs.</p>
<p>Montana investigators say most of the state&#8217;s 3,000 Fortune reps paid hundreds of dollars to join, but made little or no money.  The state called fortune a &#8220;pyramid promotional scheme&#8221; and ordered the company to make annual income statements available.  Fortune agreed to post them in order to continue operating in Montana.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t easy for us to find the financial disclosure statement, but we finally did after navigating the website for a while. We went under “opportunity”, then clicked on “rewards,” then we had to scroll down past the photographs of Fortune members swimming with the dolphins and a family picking up the new Lexis in order to find a tiny link at the bottom of the page.  The information inside speaks volumes about Fortune&#8217;s compensation.</p>
<p>In the fine print, it says 71 percent of reps are actually paid. 28 percent earn zero.  As for how the rest would look on a graph, “It would certainly have a pyramid shape to it,” said Charlie Mattingly, CEO of the Louisville Better Business Bureau.  Nearly 95 percent of reps earn less than $3,000 a year.  Another four percent earn between $3,000 and-$30,000. That means less than half of one percent of Fortune reps average more than that.</p>
<p>“What these numbers show is that relatively few people are making substantial amounts of money. 95 percent of the participants are making very little money,” said Mattingly.</p>
<p>Fortune&#8217;s marketing manager Laura McDonald said in a statement &#8220;Our goal with this document is to make sure that prospective FHTM Independent Representatives realize that they will need to work hard to earn an income and success is not guaranteed.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can click here to see FHTM annual income statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Langille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Langille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great speaking with you today.

Parent site: myshoppinggenie.com  the video on the bottom right is killer

Our site, to download the app (no spyware, malware, customer tracking etc) is myshoppinggenie.com/withrj

Another site we have/working on rjbusiness.com

When downloading the app, if you go too fast you will miss the license key 60115.

Do a Google search, genie appears, its currently branded for an automotive dealer presentation today, I could have put a logo, but couldnt find one for the business. I didnt even talk to you about that but the genie is brandable. First thing you want to d is click the options on the genie and set it to the closest city to you. That will give you all the coupon deals in your hometown. Play around with it. If you keep it, I make 3-9 on your online searches each month, if you dont you suck, just kidding. But you give it away, every person you give it to you make money, and you are advertising on your customers major search engines home page.
Anyhoo
Cheers, lets work together

Roger
704 698 2801
rogerlangille@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great speaking with you today.</p>
<p>Parent site: myshoppinggenie.com  the video on the bottom right is killer</p>
<p>Our site, to download the app (no spyware, malware, customer tracking etc) is myshoppinggenie.com/withrj</p>
<p>Another site we have/working on rjbusiness.com</p>
<p>When downloading the app, if you go too fast you will miss the license key 60115.</p>
<p>Do a Google search, genie appears, its currently branded for an automotive dealer presentation today, I could have put a logo, but couldnt find one for the business. I didnt even talk to you about that but the genie is brandable. First thing you want to d is click the options on the genie and set it to the closest city to you. That will give you all the coupon deals in your hometown. Play around with it. If you keep it, I make 3-9 on your online searches each month, if you dont you suck, just kidding. But you give it away, every person you give it to you make money, and you are advertising on your customers major search engines home page.<br />
Anyhoo<br />
Cheers, lets work together</p>
<p>Roger<br />
704 698 2801<br />
<a href="mailto:rogerlangille@yahoo.com">rogerlangille@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger Langille</title>
		<link>http://davetrosdahl.com/is-fortune-hi-tech-marketing-another-mlm-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-2161</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Langille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a flock of people looking for leads, would love to talk to you, I am an extreme late nighter, I have a call into you already, interested, busy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a flock of people looking for leads, would love to talk to you, I am an extreme late nighter, I have a call into you already, interested, busy?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose you are right about that Roger, but from a sales standpoint that just isn&#039;t quite as motivating... except for you analytical types. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose you are right about that Roger, but from a sales standpoint that just isn&#8217;t quite as motivating&#8230; except for you analytical types. <img src='http://davetrosdahl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roger Langille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Langille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true, that:

(1) It is now impossible to get paid unless you, and a person underneath of you buy vitamins, of which the company is owned by Paul Orberson
(2) Is it true, that the managerial code seperates, and there is very little interest in helping the managerial code.

(3) Is it true, that your breakaway regionals downline does not count as 1 towards your 90 in going executive

(4) Is it true that if you get paid by sponsoring someone and they cancel their services (vitamins), in the first 90 days then you lose that money?

(5) Is it true that its not really a free Lexus but rather the company makes the car payment of approx 700 a month, which really equates to an extra 30 dollars a person you sign up because you have to maintain a 24 person quota? I order why the company doesnt just say, we will give you 30 dollars extra for every sign up as long as you get 24? Almost seems like the &quot;free&quot; Lexus sounds better

(6) Can I get roadside assistance for 1/2 the price by calling roadside assistance?

(7) If someone in my downline pays their monthly bill on a service, is it true I generate about .04 cents in income?

(8) To get the vacations, is it true you need 1 personal sponsor a month, forcing you to go wide?

Please let me know when you post this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true, that:</p>
<p>(1) It is now impossible to get paid unless you, and a person underneath of you buy vitamins, of which the company is owned by Paul Orberson<br />
(2) Is it true, that the managerial code seperates, and there is very little interest in helping the managerial code.</p>
<p>(3) Is it true, that your breakaway regionals downline does not count as 1 towards your 90 in going executive</p>
<p>(4) Is it true that if you get paid by sponsoring someone and they cancel their services (vitamins), in the first 90 days then you lose that money?</p>
<p>(5) Is it true that its not really a free Lexus but rather the company makes the car payment of approx 700 a month, which really equates to an extra 30 dollars a person you sign up because you have to maintain a 24 person quota? I order why the company doesnt just say, we will give you 30 dollars extra for every sign up as long as you get 24? Almost seems like the &#8220;free&#8221; Lexus sounds better</p>
<p>(6) Can I get roadside assistance for 1/2 the price by calling roadside assistance?</p>
<p>(7) If someone in my downline pays their monthly bill on a service, is it true I generate about .04 cents in income?</p>
<p>(8) To get the vacations, is it true you need 1 personal sponsor a month, forcing you to go wide?</p>
<p>Please let me know when you post this</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, FHTM doesn&#039;t have any of their own products, but they are a very valid business. I even met Paul C. Orberson, the  president and CEO  of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and he&#039;s an awesome guy who truly wants to make a difference in the lives of many people.
Thanks for your comments,
- Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, FHTM doesn&#8217;t have any of their own products, but they are a very valid business. I even met Paul C. Orberson, the  president and CEO  of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and he&#8217;s an awesome guy who truly wants to make a difference in the lives of many people.<br />
Thanks for your comments,<br />
- Dave</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do NOT see where FHTM offers any products and services of its own.  It is a MLM referral service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do NOT see where FHTM offers any products and services of its own.  It is a MLM referral service.</p>
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